When We Talk About Animals

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When We Talk About Animals is a series of in-depth conversations with leading thinkers about the big questions animals raise about what it means to be human. Supported by the Law, Ethics & Animals Program at Yale Law School, Yale University’s Human Nature Lab, and the Yale Broadcast Studio.

Recent Episodes
  • Ep. 51 – Novelist Ned Beauman on venomous lumpsuckers and the price of extinction
    Apr 11, 2023 – 1:05:18
  • Ep. 50 – Australian Biologist Danielle Clode on the Extraordinary World of Koalas
    Feb 21, 2023 – 51:29
  • Ep. 49 – Dog Cognition Expert Alexandra Horowitz on the Quiddity of Puppies
    Oct 5, 2022 – 1:03:02
  • Ep. 48 – Patrick Rose on the Fight to Save Florida’s Manatees
    Aug 2, 2022 – 1:02:06
  • Ep. 47 – Poet Aimee Nezhukumatathil on writing love letters to nature
    May 24, 2022 – 56:47
  • Ep. 46 – Paleobiologist Thomas Halliday on the Animals of Ancient Worlds
    Mar 21, 2022 – 57:48
  • Ep. 45 – Rob Dunn on what the laws of biology predict about our future
    Feb 2, 2022 – 1:00:48
  • Ep. 44 – Rick McIntyre on the stories of Yellowstone’s greatest wolves
    Nov 22, 2021 – 1:25:32
  • Ep. 43 – Cynthia Barnett on our world of seashells
    Sep 22, 2021 – 1:03:33
  • Ep. 42 – Edie Widder on the ocean’s spectacular light
    Aug 16, 2021 – 50:32
  • Ep. 41 – Ecologist Hugh Warwick on Loving Your Hedgehogs
    May 27, 2021 – 57:53
  • Ep. 40 – Michelle Nijhuis on the history of the wildlife conservation movement
    Apr 28, 2021 – 53:42
  • Ep. 39 – Bernie Krause on saving the music of the wild
    Feb 24, 2021 – 1:05:35
  • Ep. 38 – Margaret Renkl on discovering wonder, grief, and inspiration in backyard nature
    Dec 9, 2020 – 51:59
  • Ep. 37 – Monica Gagliano on plant intelligence and human imagination
    Nov 4, 2020 – 53:46
  • Ep. 36 – Rebecca Giggs on the world in the whale
    Sep 28, 2020 – 1:05:51
  • Ep. 35 – J. Drew Lanham on finding ourselves magnified in nature’s colored hues
    Sep 2, 2020 – 59:51
  • Ep. 34 – Daniel Pauly on why overfishing is a Ponzi scheme
    Jul 20, 2020 – 59:23
  • Ep. 33 – Valérie Courtois on Indigenous-led land and wildlife stewardship
    Jun 15, 2020 – 55:05
  • Ep. 32 – Gene Baur on changing hearts, minds and laws about farm animals
    May 18, 2020 – 52:39
  • Ep. 31 – Zak Smith on ending the international wildlife trade
    Apr 27, 2020 – 54:29
  • Ep. 30 – Sonia Shah on how animal microbes become human pandemics
    Apr 6, 2020 – 59:30
  • Ep. 29 – Amanda Hitt on why the animal agriculture industry needs whistleblowers
    Mar 9, 2020 – 59:10
  • Ep. 28 – Bathsheba Demuth on capitalism, communism and arctic ecology
    Feb 10, 2020 – 59:12
  • Ep. 27 – Ed Yong on telling the grand, urgent and surprising stories of animal worlds
    Jan 13, 2020 –
  • Ep. 26 – Ian Urbina on the Outlaw Ocean
    Dec 16, 2019 – 54:47
  • Ep. 25 – Doug Kysar and Jon Lovvorn on law in the Anthropocene
    Nov 18, 2019 – 50:12
  • Ep. 24 – Christopher Ketcham on the abuse of the American West
    Oct 21, 2019 – 50:43
  • Ep. 23 – David Rothenberg on playing music with whales and nightingales
    Sep 23, 2019 – 51:50
  • Ep. 22 – Ferris Jabr on reviving the Gaia hypothesis
    Aug 27, 2019 – 53:47
  • Ep. 21 – David Barrie on the wonders of animal navigation
    Aug 5, 2019 – 59:45
  • Ep. 20 – Gabriela Cowperthwaite on the legacy of “Blackfish”
    Jul 15, 2019 – 47:33
  • Ep. 19 – Robert Macfarlane on being good ancestors across deep time
    Jun 24, 2019 – 48:55
  • Ep. 18 — Anthony Weston on animals, aliens and the silence of the universe
    Jun 10, 2019 – 54:07
  • Ep. 17 – Fabrice Schnoller on free diving with sperm whales
    May 27, 2019 – 53:59
  • Ep. 16 — Thomas Seeley on the lives of bees
    May 13, 2019 – 49:08
  • Ep. 15 – Gay Bradshaw on Charlie Russell, grizzly bears, and the search for truth
    Apr 29, 2019 – 1:00:02
  • Ep. 14 – David Wolfson on pioneering the field of farm animal law
    Apr 15, 2019 – 1:04:16
  • Ep. 13 – Nicholas Christakis on the animal origins of goodness
    Apr 1, 2019 –
  • Ep. 12 – Novelist Lindsay Stern on “The Study of Animal Languages”
    Mar 18, 2019 –
  • Ep. 11 – Diana Reiss on recognizing the dolphins in the mirror
    Mar 11, 2019 – 59:17
  • Ep. 10 – Dale Jamieson on love and meaning in the age of humans
    Feb 25, 2019 – 53:40
  • Ep. 9 – Being Charles Foster being a beast
    Feb 11, 2019 –
  • Ep. 8 – Charles Siebert on translating nature’s symphony
    Jan 28, 2019 – 58:09
  • Ep. 7 – “Eating Animals” film director Christopher Quinn on the hidden costs of factory farming
    Jan 14, 2019 – 59:28
  • Ep. 6 – Gale Ridge on bringing peace to humans’ befuddling relationships with bugs
    Jan 7, 2019 – 52:54
  • Ep. 5 – Lisa Margonelli on the big ideas termites raise about science, technology, and morality
    Dec 17, 2018 – 53:52
  • Ep. 4 – Irene Pepperberg on revolutionizing what humans think of bird brains
    Dec 10, 2018 – 57:11
  • Ep. 3 – Sue Savage-Rumbaugh on learning from humanity’s closest living relatives
    Dec 3, 2018 – 1:05:24
  • Ep. 2 – Peter Godfrey-Smith asks: What can the octopus teach us about consciousness?
    Nov 26, 2018 – 1:00:30
Recent Reviews
  • Gemma the smatie
    Meh
    I mean it’s good but I like cool facts About animals more
  • Duecely
    Critical conversations
    I learn and am inspired by this thoughtful program. Great place to get animal fix! Keep it coming, crew!
  • CaseyRP
    Arresting
    The conversations on When We Talk About Animals often appear esoteric at first, but end up revealing themselves as central to considerations of what it means to be alive and enmeshed in a web of life, laws, and technology on this planet. These are the questions we should wrestle with daily.
  • KyleAlexanderD
    Wonderful
    Truly an excellent podcast! It's incredibly well done with conversations and topics that satisfy the mind.
  • AnnaElisabeth S
    Love this podcast
    Fascinating discussions about topics that matter
  • bensoltoff
    Insightful, compassionate, and worth a deep listen
    This podcast is an utterly charming exploration of the ways that people interface with the plethora of other creatures on this planet. Jumping fluidly between disciplines (from science to psychology to philosophy to art), the conversations allow experts to their share unique and fascinating perspectives on the animal world. As hosts, Viveca and Lindsay have a calming presence and a boundless curiosity that truly brings out the best in their guests.
  • Efb789
    Definitely worth a listen!
    Such interesting content and thoughtful questions. Always a pleasure to listen to!
  • janrather
    Yup
    I didn’t know I needed this podcast but here we are! Very rewarding to be a fly on the wall for these conversations. The hosts are insightful (and that Lindsay has a v alluring speaking voice), the guests are passionate and expert, and listening to people who think of animals with such respect offers a natural and provocative foil for the rest of humanity. It’s very grounding and beautiful and a great way to nerd out.
  • ebhme
    Excellent discussions
    Very thought-provoking discussions
  • Manny Rutinel
    A great way to talk about animals and beyond!
    I am thoroughly impressed by the first episode of When We Talk About Animals. Viveca and Lindsay have done an excellent job of talking in an intellectually-satisfying and non-onerous way about animals within the scope of a specific, yet broadly applicable subject-matter. In the first episode, they discussed CRISPR-CAS9 and, alongside their guest, tied this new technology into its implications for the future of humanity and non-human animals as well as its ethical implications. Looking forward to future episodes!
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