In the Red Clay

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True Crime #153

Buried deep in the past of a quiet southern town lies the legend of Billy Sunday Birt, the most dangerous man in Georgia history. A chance meeting one spring day unravels the truth behind the notorious figure and uncovers new secrets along the way."A wild tale of moonshine, murder, and mayhem" - Vulture2021 Webby Award Honoree, Podcast Limited Series

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  • emannd1990
    Addicted
    I can’t even find the right words right now to explain just how amazing this podcast is or how great Sean Kipe. I’ve heard 3 podcasts from Sean now and each one of them had me HOOKED. I’m left here just wanting more. This podcast specifically is so different from any I have ever heard before. 10/10 recommend along with anything else Sean has done.
  • AR Brantley
    In the Red Clay
    Impeccable, professional, and laser-focused, documented look at a the infamous Dixie Mafia - through the eyes of the eldest son of the infamous Billy Sunday Birt and other law/legal officials. In Seasons 1 & 2. Sean Kipe has a true gift for guiding interviews and questions that sift through the “chaffe” and finding the important “kernels” of truth in a multi-leveled layer of murderous evil. A riveting, emotional, impactful work that is at both disturbing and, simultaneously, wonderfully transparent and transformative and redemptive. Truly a work that deserves national recognition for its incredible merits as fantastic investigative reporting and for the postive impacts on both the lives of families involved with these horrific times and for those who have listened - receiving clarity for the first time of “bits and pieces,” of hearsay and quiet speculation. Amazing. Simply amazing. Thank you, Sean.
  • jaclynwilder
    Top 5 favorite podcast!
    Loved every bit of this podcast!!
  • Blessed one I am/have been!
    Fascinating and unique perspective. History and crime!
    Perfectly produced. Kept my attention and hit close to home for sure. Fascinating and unique perspective from the family while balancing out the reality of these crimes.
  • LuvTCinMI
    You won’t be able to stop listening
    One of the best podcasts I’ve ever listened to!! Great story. Great reporting.
  • littlesmokie77
    Amazing storytelling
    Binge listened to season 1 and 2. Great listen
  • ed hi
    Hero from criminal.
    I don’t like the ending. The writer try to make you think that the criminal was a hero. A criminal is just that… A dirty thug. Nothing more, nothing less!
  • 00010si
    In the red clay
    Great story and narration right up until the episodes where you tried to make Billy a saint. Splitting hairs about who and how he killed people is a joke. The man was a piece of garbage and never should have been given the ability to visit with family in prison. I had a father that beat women and smoked crack in front of me as a young man. He was a horrible person who chose to have 5 children and polluted every one. He corrupted his sibling and nephews with his money and drugs. In my mid 30’s. Finally started to see clearly and hold him accountable. Now, I will tell stories in appropriate settings but would never try to convince myself or anyone else that he was a decent human being or somehow a good parent for providing food and shelter to his other kids. Two of my brothers and one male cousin have been to prison for drugs and beating women as a direct result of his tutelage and his daughter lives on welfare. The mother of two of his children lives in squalor and never had any kind of life because he groomed her at 16 years old when he was 30. I really hope Stoney can come to grips with reality the way I have tried to do and quit romanticizing his father. He really should be in therapy to do it.
  • wa500k
    Amazing.
    The amount of work and detail that you all have put into this is astonishing I can’t thank you or Stoney enough. Great job!!
  • yosugarface✌️
    Stunning work.
    This is by far my favorite podcast that I have ever listened to, and I have listened to a lot! Beautiful storytelling, exceptional honesty, and a magnificently complete picture. Thank you for sharing.
  • smoovman23
    I could hear Stoney talk forever.
    Emotional fore me. I have a similar background and it see a lot of similarities between Stoney and I. Great job producing. I wish there were more like this but good like finding a story teller like Stoney.
  • THEE1SCOTT
    A Great Take
    Please, more stories. Your podcast was worth every second. Thank you.
  • banjoplayer0506
    Great Job
    i'm not finished yet, but it's so unbelievable & yet, completely believable!! i've passed this on to almost everyone i know in the great state of Georgia & i think we could be addicted ~ never mind crack! this is a high everytime you start a new sentence!! amazing just can't get enough!!👍
  • Crwilki2
    So captivating
    I’ve listed to many, many podcasts and this is one of my all time favorites. So well done. Narrated to perfection. I’d listed all day if I could
  • OlivU2
    One of the Best
    I listen to so many podcasts and this is one of the best. It was interesting and emotional. You and Stoney painted such a vivid picture of the time, it was like you were there. Stoney is such a gifted story teller and I love listening to his accent. There is definitely a lot wrong with how things were done back then, but it was really interesting to see how the way of life was for the Dixie Mafia.
  • 2L8:)
    Great story
    Makes me miss my Daddy.
  • JulieBTifton
    Excellent podcast
    I couldn’t stop listening. Captivating story. I’ve recommended to everyone I know-
  • El757
    Remarkable
    This podcast is remarkable. It’s nuanced, deep and gripping. Might be the best podcast series I’ve ever heard.
  • jbearrrr
    The goat
    Best podcast I’ve listened to in a long time, if ever (& I’ve listed to a LOT). Beautiful story telling that teleports you to the time and place. Highly recommend!
  • jsgreene1
    Intriguing
    Growing up in the Boone area, this unsolved crime has always been unsettling. Glad to see things have come to light.
  • HELP4people
    But the host
    Is so condescending it’s hard to listen to the story.
  • DjJack
    Where’s the movie? 🎥
    This podcast is riveting, it’s told well, understood easily, smooth to follow- and Stoney is my friend in my head, he’s the kind of guy I would have lived to have as a father- already planning a trip to NC for no other reason than to give a hug and get a hug ♥️ So who’s writing the screenplay? I CAN’t WAIT FOR THE MOVIE 🍿
  • milla trilla
    Why God invented podcasts and black pills
    This absorbing podcast perfectly captures the paradox of good and evil and allows the story to be told by the subject’s son and “gen-u-ine” storyteller, Stoney. While the events and characters are incredible enough to make a great show, the redemptive power of a son’s love is the star.
  • 601roliz3
    Undisputedly the BEST podcast I’ve ever heard!
    This podcast has so many horribly intriguing stories that will leave you crying, cheering, and occasionally nauseated… but at the end of season 1 you will be evaluating your relationships, your life, and just maybe, after listening, you will decide not to take “too many wrong turns” at the proverbial crossroads of good and evil! Stoney and Sean, this is a work of art! Thank you so much for sharing this with the world!
  • ScareCrowA7X
    One of the best!
    I listened to the first episode and was hooked, next thing I know I am listening to the last episode and wanted more but there was no more and was bummed. It is well done and well researched there are some TC podcasters out there that need to listen to this series to see how a proper True Crime podcast should be done. Any True Crime fan will like this podcast and it is far better than Crime Junky or The Deck or any other ones that I have listened to. My top 5 TC podcasts: 1) Killer Psyche with Candice DeLong 2) True Crime All the Time 3) True Crime Garage 4) Undetermined 5) Felonious Florida
  • justalittleoldwoman
    Great show
    Sean tells a wonderful story. He manages to make terrible acts committed by ruthless men into a human story. I will always remember Stoney’s love for his father. I can’t wait for the next podcast!
  • Cndnation66
    Dare I say the best podcast I’ve ever listened to?
    Yes! I listen to podcasts every day and have for several years. This is the best one out there. I recommended it to all of my family and friends.
  • "E"2
    Amazing story of Gods mercy and forgiveness.
    One of the best podcast I’ve ever listened to.
  • @Chase A
    The loving hit-man
    This is a tragic story. The saddest part is that the majority of the listeners are going to walk away seeing Billy in a positive light. Perfect dad, loving husband, great friend, honest to a fault, ideal inmate, good Christian man, and he even killed himself for the benefit of his nurses. No justice is given for all the families he ruined but it’s very important they clear Billy’s name because he deserves it for being such a good man. The horror of the 50+ murders is so far in the background that you forget you’re listening to a podcast about a cold blooded killer but instead getting the story of a small town hero.
  • KLea1903
    Amazing podcast(er)
    At this point I’ll listen to anything Sean puts out. All of his podcasts are well researched and extremely factual. I really enjoy his perspective and the stories he chooses to tell are always intriguing
  • lords and kings.
    Great host
    Was a great story teller. I don’t believe it was glamorizing. We as human beings love violence anyway as long as it’s happening to someone else.
  • LPLPLP:?
    Glamorizing trauma for a good ol’ southern story
    I grew up right down the road from Winder so I’m happy to see local folks and histories getting a voice - I listened to both seasons for that reason. But it’s clear by season 2 that Sean Kipe is way out of his depth with the trauma that has shaped the participants’ lives. His fatherly love refrain and few minutes w/ the murder victim’s families is weak. The lack of perspective and depth from the host is moving this podcast closer to glamorization of violence and abuse.
  • Xrtgum
    Good but ...
    Season 1 one was good. I think the narrator failed to challenge Stoney's perception of his Dad as a loving father evidenced by leaving him with such a burden for life. I like Stoney, he's a sharp ole boy that lets his country style belie his intelligence ( emotional & intellectual) In Season 2 I felt that there was a bit too much rehashing of previously discussed information. Sean briefly discussed the murdered family's daughter but not to the extent I would have expected. Maybe I missed it but after her divorce I don't recall what happened to her. Additionally, I thought his conversation with the murdered family's niece was going to give us some insight to what the family thought about who was responsible for the killings, especially the son in law. I would like to have better understood their perspective.
  • Viece541
    We need another season of this podcast!!
    This is by far one of my favorite podcast and Sean like knows how to tell a story!! I love everything mafia first episode I was hooked!!
  • stupid???
    Love it. BEST PODCAST IN MY OPINION
    I am absolutely loving this podcast! This is so well done and my new favorite! Thank you for this story 😊. By far my favorite podcast! Ooohh I love it!!!
  • Natalie Kraemer
    Captivating storytelling
    Wow! Happened upon this via a Cold Case ad on a long car ride home. I’m a sucker for all things mafia and love a rich story rooted in a small town, so I was intrigued. I was immediately captivated by Sean’s storytelling and Stoney’s amazing voice. Was bummed for my 5 hour trip ended and I had to hit pause. I stopped where Stoney was coming to the realization about the damage his father had done as oh Shenandoah played in the background; perfection. ❤️ Can’t wait to listen again. Also just ordered Stoney’s book, can’t get enough! I live near Franklin County, Va (named the wettest county in the world back in the day) so was interesting to hear all about other moonshiners in the south. Well done!
  • Olympic app
    Ruined me for other podcasts
    I am new to podcasts and this was my first. What an outstanding story. Moreover, Sean’s narration and writing is stellar. I loved every minute and hated to see it end.
  • Don1527
    Best podcast out there
    I cannot even recall some of the podcasts that I have listened to. This one out ranks all the podcasts. I will forever be suggesting it to anyone with a pulse.
  • buster moon 5,000
    Crazy
    I’ve grown up in Georgia, 5 minutes from winder and have NEVER heard of the Dixie mafia. Been awesome to learn about the history of my home state🔥🔥
  • Michaelrob4080
    Unmatched
    Hands down the best podcast I’ve ever listened to. I’ve listened to it a dozen times and it never gets old.
  • Capt. 40oz
    Keep it Going
    I would love to see this series continued, maybe more on some of the other crimes committed by Georgia Mafia
  • 70 Cheyenne
    Awesome Podcast
    One of the best, if not the best podcasts I’ve ever listened to. So real and honest. Well done Sean.
  • RedCharl
    A little unsettling
    Interesting but a lack of objectivity runs end to end. The real narrator is the son of a convicted hit man. He doesn’t seem to really blink at his father’s record of killing 50+ people, but he does take issue with the implication that his father, addicted to speed and known for strangling his victims with coat hangers, could have taken part in 2 sloppy murders that had torture as an element.
  • Podeyn
    Absolutely incredible
    This is, hands down, the best podcast I’ve ever listened to. I finished in 24 hrs. I couldn’t stop listening. Stoney is a great storyteller. Bravo! 👏
  • Apberrong
    Incredibly moving story
    I’m listening to this podcast for the second time. I cried and was very moved listening. This story has life lessons that I will carry with me in my own life. Everyone should listen to this story. Very thankful for Stoney and for the creator of this podcast. Thank you so much.
  • slimyfox47
    Best podcast I’ve listened to!!
    The only complaint I have about this podcast was that it ended!! So freaking good!! I loved it. I felt like I was listening to stories from an old friend. Amazing job and Sean Kipe has the best voice for this!!! Not many podcasts I can binge listen to but this was one I couldn’t stop listening to!
  • Tiffany 74
    I never write reviews….
    But this was hands down the best podcast I’ve ever listened to. I laughed and I cried. My jaw dropped open more than once. Stony’s voice felt like home…like a warm hug from the people I grew up with and loved so much. Thank you, especially, to him, for having the courage to tell this story and share so so much with us. It’s beautiful.
  • Farmer ar
    Season 1
    I really enjoyed this season. I was initially looking for a podcast about the Dixie mafia around the Arkansas-Louisiana areas. This was a pleasant surprise! Great job!
  • hardNthaPaint
    Binge worthy
    Couldn’t turn it off. Wonderful narrations. Enjoyed the stories so much! Can’t wait for the film
  • Clemsonfh3
    Incredible
    I have listened to a lot of podcasts. This one is by far my favorite. Incredible job.
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