Real ones this past week with Howard Beck and Raja Bell was definitely great. If they were the only two on I would definitely rate them 5 stars.

Raja is by far the standout. Logan is a good addition, but they don’t need Beck. I feel as if his placement is forced. I will still listen for Raja, I feel as if he is a quality analyst. The other show with Wos and those two super nerds is bad. Wos has too many garbage takes, which is annoying because his primary debate strategy is just to laugh really loud and say “Come on now guys”. And the two nerds are too effeminate to push back, so they just serve as Wos’ yes men. Example: The fact that he went on and on laughing off Sabonis as a third team candidat….but put Haliburton on second team for having two and a half good months is the nail in the coffin for me as far as this show goes.

Group Chat: I really only listen to the podcast to hear Rob Mahoney and his opinions. He does a good job breaking down the games and provides great insight into players strengths and weaknesses. Wos is ok, I think he is pretty good in doses and can provide some good insight at times. He tends to be pretty negative and bashes players quite a bit. It feels like he goes through the different options to responding to a question in his head, and always will go for the hottest take. Justin is sadly dragging the show down in my opinion. Compared to Wos and especially Rob you can just tell he doesn’t watch enough basketball. He delivers opinions and thoughts that are pretty weak. He prioritizes creating conflict to make the podcast “interesting” but that makes him come a across as an idiot sometimes. Real Ones: I haven’t listened since 2022 because Logan Murdock gets on my nerves. I love listening to Raja breakdown his thoughts about players and matchups. I think Raja is great on that podcast. Logan’s questions are mediocre at best most of the time, but his opinions are just irritating and lazy. It feels like Logan is just looking for approval from Raja most of the time, even though he’s the host! The dynamic is backwards.

Logan and Howard are solid and they have great insights and chemistry with Raja. But man I think Raja is hands down the best part of the show. Every time he is not in an episode I am let down. Raja just has such good stories and perspectives and is super funny too. Group chat is good too but Real Ones when Raja is on is my favorite by far.

I love Group Chat and have liked the addition of Howard Beck to Real Ones.

Fire him

Thought this show was objectively really quality but I feel like some personalities (wosny lambre) will attempt to draw attention by giving overly critical takes or simply demonstrates a lack of knowledge about smaller market teams in particular. Leads to lower quality product

Just listened to the most recent episode about Giannis’ place in history, and they just rambled about rumors about him leaving… no stats, no background, no analyzing his growth, this show is basically first take. No intelligent insight

I like how they really get into detail about the stories they are talking about,also they have some pretty good people running the show.

Boy do they have fun being racist. I have lived my life hearing ‘we are only kidding.’ Not funny.

wow every single one of these shows is not great. particularly real ones. howard beck is the only redeeming quality. Logan and raja holy moly. 0 insight. group chat is not great either. its either faux-nerds who think they are smart. or wos lazily saying nothing. whatcha doing bill simmons?

He ruins a decent show

Real ones is dope! Love the vibe fellas!

it’s a bit a of a mess.. lots of unneeded skits where they try to bring the producer in for air time.. yes you can just fast forward buts it’s annoying I’m forced to do so.. hope someone finds them funny. Can I just get basketball and bball adjacent chat?

Tell your boy Simmons that Wemby leads all first year players in points, rebounds, blocks, and steals. He is ROY. Besides Chet is a 2nd year coach player. He plays next to an mvp.

Love the pod but there’s too much superfluous profanity

I like Wos on group chat. The other two sound like AIs. Real Ones is good. Like Raj. Beck great. Host trying too hard. Too much superfluous cursing. Sounds like teenagers trying to be edgy.

Bad

Wos loooooooves to name crap. We get it u know some people

See above

There are many way better NBA pods out there. These guys are just full of hot takes and lame opinions. First time Ive ever rated a podcast one star.

You can caveat all you want you defended a 30+ year old man by comparing to your like 12 old kids and then said it’s a bad precedent because it shows what the NBA can do? If the precedent is that an adult player who’s had countless infractions follows up a choke hold incident by round housing punching a player mid play then that seems fair to anyone unless you wanna defend in the abstract which just shows how poor your defense of Draymond is…the shows better than weak stuff like that

I’ve followed the NBA Ringer podcast feed since its inception, but the past couple years it’s fallen off a cliff in terms of quality and nuance. The hosts seem wildly unprepared and have no insights that I can’t glean for myself by watching highlights, reading box scores and following NBA Twitter - which is all I think that they actually do. Is it that hard for them to watch the games in totality? Or talk to beat reporters or their sources on teams before they give their opinions/takes? I don’t get the impression that these guys, especially Group Chat, love the game either. If anything they seem like they resent having to watch the vast majority of the league, especially Justin Verrier, who I don’t think likes any player, team or coach. And on top of being unprepared and overly negative, they just spout the same groupthink that I see on Reddit and Twitter. How many times do I have to listen to J Kyle Mann, Tyler Parker and Seerat Sohi wax poetic about the Thunder and Wemby? And Howard Beck? I don’t know what kind of spell he’s put on y’all but he’s boring and wholly unoriginal. Bill Simmons revolutionized the industry and love him or hate him (which I toggle back and forth with), you can’t say he doesn’t watch the games or has unique insights. I wish that would trickle down to this feed. In the past there was a solid mix of intel, analysis and entertainment and also general positivity that Ringer NBA hosts had. Of course there was some haterade too. Now it’s all haterade or CJs for obvious young players. What else do you guys do? I’m not sticking around anymore to find out.

Give Real Ones their own feed!

It used to be good every Wednesday and Friday I would tune In to The Answer or Weekend with Wos but especially Wos but now that is over these clowns on real ones are taking over everything on this show I would skip at least Wos is on in Group Chat

Beck is the perfect addition to the show.

Can we please remove him?

I love the Group Chat podcast. I like Woz, and I think he is the best personality/ takegiver on the show. However, all the other white guys on the podcast are just into him and try to be woke/signal to him that they are on his side socially/politically. It’s just kind of annoying when Woz is giving basketball takes, and the other dudes are like oh yes, Woz, you are so bright and then go out of their way to virtue signal to show they are on his perceived side. So Woz is great; maybe everyone else should just stick to basketball? Idk🤷🏻‍♀️

Good

Mostly just speaking about Group Chat here because they’re the ones I listen to most. But their show is a very very good mix of knowledge, humor, and personality/chemistry. Love Just Rob and Wos!

The October 19, 2023 episode was one of the best basketball podcast episodes I’ve heard. Their insight in leadership was so complex and well articulated. Leadership is a topic I value dearly and sports is the most important forum to understand and develop it in our society -especially since war has been monetized.

Don’t ruin “the real ones” with Howard Beck. Totally kills the vibe. Logan and Raja should have a show to themselves!

The Wos and Verrier minutes are painful. Get Mahoney some worthy cohosts, like Beck and Pina.

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Big Wos talks a lot but he’s dope. Long live Wos

1 star for the Austin Reeves show. Was Daniel Ewing not available? 5 stars for the other shows

Austin is bright and well spoken. Especially compared to Agent 0 & co. Enjoy listening to him and Pausha.

Can you consider maybe moving these two to their own feed so they don’t pop up on this otherwise good feed? Lost lots of talent throughout the years (RIP Tjarks) but still mostly entertaining. These two… boring & an immediate skip.

It was enjoyable until someone was using way too many ‘like’ in a sentence :(

Not the worst basketball podcast but definitely below average. NBA is the bud light of sports because of all of the off court stupidity. Please stick to basketball on the court. Keeps getting dumber.

I listen to hear what Raja and a few others have to say. Any episode with Wos is tiring to listen to. He sounds like he hates basketball. Why does he complain about every topic? If he dislikes everything so much he should go do a different job.

Justin verrier consistently holds back Wos and Mahoney on group chat. Directs conversations in the wrong direction. Has a poor understanding of players and their values. Wastes time on topics and headlines that aren’t legitimate or worthy of deep discussion. Wos and Mahoney have fantastic insight and perspective and should be highlighted by a more capable basketball mind. They deserve better.

Amazing last episode of the season with Steph Curry; Raja and Logan are a terrific duo. We got so many good stories and insights about last season, it felt like I was having a conversation with Steph. Thanks chaps! When are they getting their own feed?!?!

This guy is not very likable.

Tyler Parker says “like” about 1000 time in a 30 minute pod.

Can y’all please work on expanding your vocabulary beyond like six adjectives.

Of the various Ringer NBA podcast, the only one that has chemistry is “The Real Ones”. All the other podcast just have weird pairings or weird chemistry. Like why don’t Tyler Parker and J. Kyle Mann have a podcast together? That pairing makes sense and when they do a podcast together it is good. Instead it is J. Kyle Mann and Seerat Sohi, who have the chemistry of Harry Potter and Ginny in the movies. And then there is Justin Verrier, who is such a downer that he would ruin the mood at any party. Wos is sort of entertaining, but is just really weird and has strange takes. Rob Mahoney seems like he has a lot of good things to say, but it just gets derailed by Justin ruining the vibes or Wos bringing in vibes that just don’t make sense. Michael Pina is as boring as a rock.

Update! This SHOW IS still trash!! All these non athletes talking like there opinion matters! This show is so freakin TRASH! Give them there own feed and just leave Raja and hommie on this! All these HIPSTER dorks RUIN this feed! S

The hosts are very articulate, and I especially like the Austin Rivers and Pausha Haghighi segment. Those two are knowledgeable and work great together, and Rivers brings incredible, lifelong NBA knowledge to the pod.

They really need to cut the Austin Rivers segment of this podcast lineup. Raja Bell is a great