Dear Bob and Sue: A National Parks Podcast


In Dear Bob and Sue, authors Matt and Karen Smith share stories of their travels to all of the U.S. National Park as well as other spectacular public lands. From adventures gone awry to memorable moments and Q&As from readers, get to know the couple behind the books and get inspired to go on some adventures of your own.

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  • beckyiron
    Great podcast about traveling in the National Parks
    I’m not much of a hiker but Karen and Matt make me want to try more! We have visited about half of the national parks and I love hearing the stories, tips and pleasant banter from these two. In fact, we’re on our way to Olympic National Park in our RV and re-listening to episode 19 is like getting recommendations from friends. Love this podcast!
  • Iluser
    Great podcast
    So much fun to listen. Love the books!
  • Patsy7496
    Such an enjoyable listen!
    Thank you!
  • Runningfifty
    Loving this podcast!
    I recently found this podcast and am just loving it. Karen and Matt are so informative, inspiring, and fun to listen to. I highly recommend this podcast!
  • deb lev
    Bob and sue podcast
    Great info and so fun but professional! They are awesome!!!
  • ~melanie~
    Stunning 😉
    I discovered the Dear Bob & Sue podcast a few months ago and I’m so glad I did! As someone who loves the outdoors and hopes to hit the road someday to see the National Parks, this podcast has been encouraging and helped give me a push to get out there and explore. The best part of Dear Bob & Sue is not the info and stories about the parks…it’s Matt & Karen and their hilarious back-and-forth conversations! I love listening to them and after binging all of the episodes, I feel like I’m listening to some of my old friends bantering. Even if you have no interest in visiting the US National Parks, you will still enjoy their stories of “adventures and misadventures”. So entertaining and I’ve also taken lots of notes for future park trips. I’m currently reading their book (also called Dear Bob & Sue) and it is equally endearing and entertaining. If you’re just starting out with the podcast I recommend their Lake Clark episode - it’s been one of my favorites so far. Looking forward to more episodes in the future. Thanks, Matt & Karen, for the thought and effort you put into your podcast!
  • DCJess-2018
    Beware: Will give you wanderlust
    I recently discovered this podcast and am now addicted. I love how practical and useful their advice is, but they’re also fun and entertaining storytellers. I take furious notes while I listen, planning countless National Parks trips for the future.
  • kabwordpuzzler
    Love Matt and Karen’s podcasts!
    I am a big fan of Matt and Karen and loved the Dear Bob and Sue books! The podcasts are so entertaining. I enjoy hearing some of the “behind the scenes” information that we didn’t read about in the books. During the podcasts, I feel like I’m sitting in their “park visitor center” living room listening to stories of their adventures. I also like that they share visitor information and knowledge about each park, some from their perspective but also some basic helpful hints. If you’re interested in national parks, grab a beer, a glass of wine or a cup of coffee and settle in for an entertaining peek into the parks!
  • PhotographyBoy
    Like a conversation with a couple of friends!
    Hands down, this is my favorite podcast ever. I love their conversational style, and each episode is sprinkled with lots of good laughter. It’s very wholesome! It’s also very inspiring and educational for me…makes me want to quit my job and spend a year visiting America’s National Parks!
  • kittyonetime
    Love the pod casts!
    My wife and I love to listen to your adventures, as we are also trying to visit all the national parks! Keep them coming..
  • weallareprisoners
    I love these two. Great podcast
    In my mind this is one of the best podcasts about National parks. Even if you haven’t read the books (you should if this subject matter interests you) you’ll love this podcast. The stories are great and there’s always some good tips and tricks. I’ve been listening since the beginning and every episode I find myself smiling listening to Matt and Karen telling their stories. At this point their adventures have me wishing I could be their friend.
  • AT Hiker 2018
    Best Podcast Ever...
    We love Matt and Karen. Not only are they informative and extremely knowledgeable about our National Parks and more but they are entertaining and humorous! Their adventures make you want to pack your bags and head to the parks, trails, and even rivers!
    Delightful listening
    Ive been listening while i do my 3 mile walks as daily as possible in April in Upstate new york! I am laughing out loud just like when i read the books! People driving past probably think im crazy but its so FUNNY! I can visualize what they are describing every time and i get great tips about parks i want to visit in my RV! Im going to listen to the RV episode agian because i laughed so hard i missed some of it 👍👍👍👍👍
  • Alyrush
    A little too much giggling
    Loved your first book, love your Instagrams. The podcasts, while informative, usually well-spoken, and peppered with fun banter, sometimes suffer from too many giggling sessions. This sometimes upsets the flow of information for me. Sorry, guys, but I thought you’d want to know. Otherwise, keep up the great work!
  • Disney16
    Best NPS podcast I’ve found so far
    My new favorite NPS podcast! Love your guys take on the tips and tricks involved in traveling to the parks! Can’t wait to listen to more episodes! Matt and Karen are an inspiration for my husband and I!
  • Gig hooch
    Loved It!!!
    Matt and Karen are so much fun!!! I love how much they love national parks!! And they give you details without getting bogged down and boring. If you love public lands, you’re going to love this show!
  • Virginiabaileyphoto
    So much fun!
    Loved their books and now I’m enjoying all of the podcasts as well! So much fun to listen to and dream about the parks I will visit someday!
  • Yvonne Kyler
    Absolutely terrific podcasts. We went to our first group of parks last spring and discovered Matt and Karen’s podcasts on the drive home. Can’t get enough of them!
  • kacsings
    Knowledge with fun
    While I may never be able to visit all of the National Parks I have learned so much from this podcast. Even the parks I’ve been too. I can tell they love the parks. I’ve enjoyed every episode and recommended to others visiting the parks.
  • Alexys E
    New Favorite Podcast!
    I heard about this podcast when Matt and Karen were on Hiking Thru Life. I began “binge-listening,” and I was immediately enthralled from the very first episode. The Smiths are so entertaining; I love their goofy banter and interesting stories. The episodes are not only filled with adventures and misadventures in the National Parks, but details and information about our public lands. This couple is very inspiring, and makes me all the more excited to visit each of the U.S. National Parks. I will definitely be reading their books, and I look forward to a new episode every week!
  • hiking Baba
    Loving this podcast
    My daughter introduced me to the podcast a month or 2 ago while we were driving to a camp together. Now I listen to the two of you on all adventures. I love hearing about the parks near by, also living in Washington makes it nice to get your ideas. Since Karen loves and wants more reviews I finally wrote my very first podcast review.
  • Reggie820
    Great podcast!
    Love the podcast, I love the every week podcast. Keep up the great work! We went to Vegas and went to all the parks you all talked about in episode number 14. We also went to another area called Mount Charleston which had some awesome hikes. When we got there it was 64° at 7 AM and 74° at noon in Vegas that day it was 108°. We went on three hikes that day and they were all awesome. Love the podcast.
  • dsilveyj
    Great job as always.
    Thanks Matt and Karen for another great episode. Your timing is impeccable with the Badlands episode, as we will be heading to the Dakotas in a week. Really appreciate the description of your one day at the Badlands. We’ll have to check the Minutemen film as well.
  • Trixie53
    Never miss an episode
    Really like this podcast
  • rakisone
    One of my favorite shows
    Matt and Karen are a joy to listen to. I started reading their books in 2019 and when they announced they were doing a podcast I was thrilled. Their show is such a fun hour and they’re talking about travel and National Parks. What more could you want?
  • RobCGraham
    It’s always hard on me when I finish a good series of books, particularly those as well written by Matt and Karen. Each day, I look forward to picking up where I left off. They do such a wonderful job of immersing the reader/listener into their adventures. And while very funny, they impart good, common-sense observations about their travels to our public lands. So having finished the books, I was delighted to find so many episodes to catch up on in their podcast. I really enjoy hearing more about their adventures in a conversational tone and am often laughing along with them throughout the podcast. Thank you so much for your work, and I’ll be thinking of you both every time I chase a pizza with my beer.
  • JCo and the Boys
    Funny and informational
    I love listening to this podcast because it reminds me of places I have been in the National Parks or it gives me ideas for new adventures.
  • jenna sacks
    This podcast helped my pandemic blues!
    I’m so glad I found this podcast relatively early on in the pandemic. With the last year being full of disappointment due to cancelled trips and lots of time spent at home, this podcast was just so comforting! I really enjoy listening to Matt and Karen’s stories. It seems like they have so much fun together on their adventures.
  • Middlesister63
    My go to for all things NP
    I love listening to this fun and upbeat podcast. If I have a question about navigating a NP I immediately search for their info via book or podcast. My husband and I love listening to Matt and Karen when we are on road trips.
  • redditking69
    Love listening to these podcasts!
    My 7 year old always asks to listen to Dear Bob and Sue before we go to sleep at night!
  • Starchief58
    Very entertaining and light hearted!
  • TrishWP
    Listen on my walks
    Love the books. Love the podcast. Matt and Karen keep me entertained on my neighborhood walks and I can almost imagine being with them on their awesomeballs hikes (except not Mt. St. Helens.). Love the Cascade Volcano series. Looking forward to more trips with Matt and Karen.
  • Tschoenrock
    This is one of my FAVORITE podcasts. I read Matt and Karen’s first book and adored it. I didn’t realize until they had this podcast until last year and I’ve been binging them all ever since. I can’t wait until a new one comes out each week. They are so funny and I often laugh out loud while listening. They’re both so positive and informing! #Relationshipgoals Can you be my mom and dad? Love every episode. Please don’t ever stop.
  • Celticdreameretn
    Love your spirit
    I love your podcast and your books! My girlfriend told me about your books and I’m devouring them at night and listening to your podcast to and from work. Visiting the parks and lands have been in my bucket list forever, I’m working on it little bits at a time but am now ready to jump in and start planning some longer trips. Thanks for starting my mornings off with a smile!
  • National Parks Make Me Happy!
    Awesome Podcast!
    So excited to have discovered your podcast! Like you guys, I made a decision almost 6 years ago to see all I could see-NOW-after loosing my spouse unexpectedly at 46. Your podcast has helped encourage me to continue and that you are never too old to try new things. Hoping to be a “backpacker after 50” eventually! I’m also enjoying reading Dear Bob and Sue Season 1 currently!
  • J. Withrow
    I love your podcasts!
    It took me forever to figure out how to leave a review (my first review), sorry I took so long! You two are so entertaining. I really look forward to the podcast. When you said the podcast would drop weekly, my response was “YES!” Thank you for such a great show! I love the way you share your experiences... making me feel as if I’m along with you.
  • Care52
    Love your Podcasts
    We have read all your books and now are enjoying your podcasts. Thanks for the humor and the laughter!
  • librariantiff
    I can’t get enough!
    As a lover of all places with brown signs, I’m really not sure how it took me this long to discover Matt and Karen, but now that I have, I am kind of obsessed! I discovered the podcast after I finished their first book and was waiting for it to come available for me at the library. I’m tapping into the episodes that are relevant to my upcoming road trip, but I know I will listen to all of the past episodes and stay up to date on their new adventures! They are the perfect combination of hilarious and informative— I can’t get enough!
  • Robin BR
    Love your podcast
    As a part of a hiking and national park couple, I can really relate to you two. I have gotten some great new ideas for places to visit from the podcast. Thanks so much for sharing.
  • Kimmie100770
    5 star review
    I’ve read the books and now eagerly listen to the podcast every week. When my husband and I travel we often refer to our friends Matt and Karen. WWM&KD?
  • grevlup
    My Bucket List Buds
    Once our children left the nest, our bucket list branched out to places in Europe, Asia, and the like. Well Matt and Karen brought us back to the good ole U.S. with their books and podcasts. We have been to all the states, I have run a race in 46 states, but we missed so much in practically everywhere we visited. We add to our U.S. bucket list after every podcast. They are the best travelers and hikers I know and their way of presenting their trips to us is as fun as it gets.
  • dilly2233
    Fun podcast if you like hiking and traveling
    I look forward to each podcast. I like the places they talk about and the specific hikes they do when they get to their destination. Look forward to the many places you will continue to explore in the future.
  • Bootleg juno
    Favorite podcast!
    Listening to your podcasts makes my day! My husband and I often listen while we are working on making custom travel posters and dreaming of our own future travels. I find myself pausing the podcast to take notes on parks and favorite hikes. No surprise, between the photos we get from out customers and your podcasts and books, our list is getting quite long! To those reading the reviews and trying to decide whether it is worth a listen: if you like to explore national parks, state parks and public lands, even just a little, and you LOVE to laugh, you MUST listen to Matt and Karen Smith’s Dear Bob and Sue podcasts!
  • HelenandMike
    Just Fun!
    Love the books and this podcast. We hope to experience all the parks some day, in the meantime these bring us joy!
  • The Real Patty Mack
    Relatable and Informative
    I enjoy listening to Matt & Karen! They are fun and super relatable. I look forward to hearing them recall their adventures. It inspires my husband and I to branch out and look at other areas we hadn’t considered visiting.
  • ronellehiker
    One of my favs
    Look forward to each episode! Good fun!
  • Readerrant
    Getting ready for a NP road trip
    Matt and Karen, thanks for your books and the podcasts. Paul and I are getting ready to hit the road as we are vaccinated, recently retired, and in good health. We have been to 33 parks and will add 3 more to the list. Also, we plan to revisit 5 parks. The podcasts on Carlsbad and White Sands are super helpful. Sonia Nuss
  • Eskimoandi
    Love them!
    I love the books, and I love the podcast. I'm an avid national parks visitor (up to 48!) and I enjoy hearing their tips and what trails they've done. It's inspiring and motivating, not to mention they're pretty funny.
  • HikingSteve
    I have been looking for a podcast series that discusses National Parks and the Outdoors in a way that suits me. I believe I have found it at last! I just discovered DearBobandSue and selected Episode 30, “Six Astounding State Parks” to be my first listen. Loved it! I’ve been to 3 of the 6 State Parks you covered, and your descriptions captured the qualities of the parks so well, particularly Goblin Valley. I am planning on trips to Valley of Fire and Custer in the near future. I chose Custer for one of the reasons you covered - it’s proximity to so many National lands: Mount Rushmore, Wind Cave, Badlands, Devil’s Tower to name a few. Your discussion has made me even more eager to go. I look forward to many more hours of interesting and joyful listening.
  • VeterinaryMomma
    Love it!
    My husband, two year old, and I love listening to Matt and Karen. Our two year old yells for Bob and Sue whenever we get in the car. We are currently working on our goal of visiting all the national parks with our now family of four. We have been to fifteen so far and our nine week old has been to three already as well. Matt and Karen are entertaining and help us plan our national park trips!
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