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BE THAT LAWYER is for attorneys who want more freedom, enjoyment and most importantly, control in their career. Topics will include business development, marketing, branding, technology, and law firm growth. The goal is to educate, entertain and share best practices related to these topics, so that you, the listener can get real value. This is primarily an interview show with great guests (attorneys and legal marketing professionals), sharing stories and analogies, as well as engaging in personal discussions that will keep you entertained and coming back week after week.

Recent Episodes
  • Ed Levy: Building Trust Appreciation and Referrals Through Relationship Marketing
    Apr 14, 2025 – 00:31:33
  • Alex Geisler: Creating Sticky Client Relationships in Law
    Apr 10, 2025 – 00:34:43
  • Judy Barton: Lessons in Business Adaptation and Customer-Centric Innovation
    Apr 7, 2025 – 00:36:29
  • Michael Vater: Expanding Legal Practice with Non Traditional Methods and Partnerships
    Apr 3, 2025 – 00:32:05
  • Tom Ciesielka: Building a Strong Legal Reputation Through Public Relations
    Mar 31, 2025 – 00:32:17
  • Jim Ries: The Giver’s Guide to Business Development & Networking Mastery
    Mar 27, 2025 – 00:36:23
  • David Ackert: Build Meaningful and Strategic Connections That Drive Business
    Mar 24, 2025 – 00:31:33
  • Kyle Harbaugh: Fixing the Hiring Crisis in Law Firms with Smarter Strategies
    Mar 20, 2025 – 00:31:57
  • Dennis Meador: Winning at Marketing and Personal Branding Beyond the Billable Hour
    Mar 17, 2025 – 00:35:25
  • Blake Strautins: How Lawyers Can Improve Time Management Delegation and Strategic Growth
    Mar 13, 2025 – 00:32:04
  • Mina Haque: Navigating Solo Practice and Entrepreneurship
    Mar 10, 2025 – 00:30:33
  • Belle Walker: The Lawyer’s Guide to Delegation, Efficiency, and Sustainable Success
    Mar 6, 2025 – 00:29:59
  • Nicola Hobeiche and Shereen El Domeiri: Inside the Mind of In-House Counsel: What Outside Lawyers Must Know
    Mar 3, 2025 – 00:33:26
  • Mike Chastaine: How to Master Your Time and Build a Thriving Firm
    Feb 27, 2025 – 00:32:24
  • Bruce La Fetra: The Client Whisperer’s Playbook in Building a Thriving Law Practice
    Feb 24, 2025 – 00:27:59
  • James Rodgers: Rethinking Workplace Diversity for the Future
    Feb 20, 2025 – 00:31:53
  • Saja Raoof: The Introvert’s Advantage: Networking, Law, and Business Growth
    Feb 17, 2025 – 00:27:50
  • Jay McAllister: The Next Evolution of AI in Legal Practice
    Feb 13, 2025 – 00:36:41
  • Ken Hardison: KPIs, Systems, and Business Strategies for Sustainable Success
    Feb 10, 2025 – 00:29:07
  • Chuck Andrews: The Mental and Business Foundations of Career Growth and Transitions
    Feb 6, 2025 – 00:26:46
  • Sam Mollaei: The AI Advantage: Revolutionizing Legal Practices for 2025 and Beyond
    Feb 3, 2025 – 00:32:08
  • Michael Cohen: The Lawyer's Guide to Leadership, Equity, and Career Satisfaction
    Jan 30, 2025 – 00:32:04
  • Erika Steinberg: Fractional Marketing and the Future of Law Firm Strategy
    Jan 27, 2025 – 00:31:56
  • Sarah Allen: Simplifying Video Marketing for Lawyers and Beyond
    Jan 23, 2025 – 00:32:33
  • Tim Semelroth: Turning Connections and Specialization Into a Thriving Law Practice
    Jan 20, 2025 – 00:29:12
  • Justin Weinstein: Investing in People, Community, and Long-Term Growth
    Jan 16, 2025 – 00:34:41
  • Julia Taylor: Unlocking Law Firm Potential with Virtual Talent and Automation
    Jan 13, 2025 – 00:30:16
  • Scott Monroe: Building a High-Quality Criminal Defense Practice
    Jan 9, 2025 – 00:32:32
  • Simon McCrum: Turning Service into Strategy: Business Development That Changes Lives
    Jan 6, 2025 – 00:31:37
  • Heather Moulder: Transforming Legal Marketing Through Authentic Storytelling
    Jan 2, 2025 – 00:28:25
  • Julia Hensel: Unlocking Law Firm Success Through Smart Website Optimization
    Dec 30, 2024 – 00:30:20
  • Gideon Grunfeld: Navigating Pricing, Psychology, and Strategy in Legal Practice
    Dec 26, 2024 – 00:35:07
  • Russell Knight: Building and Scaling a Law Firm by Investing in Your Team
    Dec 23, 2024 – 00:28:08
  • Jennifer Gardner: Emotional Intelligence, Advocacy, and Upholding the Rule of Law
    Dec 19, 2024 – 00:32:19
  • Sonya Palmer: Strategies for Scaling, Hiring, and Marketing Success
    Dec 16, 2024 – 00:32:34
  • Jared Correia: From Hesitation to Integration: AI's Role in Transforming Law Firms
    Dec 12, 2024 – 00:32:49
  • Stuart Baum: The Power of Listening, Storytelling, and Good Habits in Law Practice
    Dec 9, 2024 – 00:34:26
  • Bryan Figueroa: Technology, Delegation, and Staffing Strategies for Law Firms
    Dec 5, 2024 – 00:31:33
  • John Kormanik: Time Mastery and Growth Strategies for Busy Legal Professionals
    Dec 2, 2024 – 00:33:00
  • Scott Simmons: Mastering Legal Business Development and the Art of Client-Centric Lawyering
    Nov 28, 2024 – 00:34:26
  • Gordon Firemark: Maximizing Content Creation Through Podcasting
    Nov 25, 2024 – 00:35:52
  • Tracy LaLonde: Achieving Joy in the Legal Grind: From Delegation Tips to Work-Life Boundaries
    Nov 21, 2024 – 00:32:09
  • Deb Feder: Optimizing Your LinkedIn and Client Conversations for Better Practice Management
    Nov 18, 2024 – 00:33:03
  • Brian Zapf: Financial Foundations for Law Firm Growth
    Nov 14, 2024 – 00:32:15
  • Scott Love: The Power of Niching Down: Legal Recruiting, Branding, and Beyond
    Nov 11, 2024 – 00:31:55
  • Michael Educate: Creating Lasting Client Relationships Through Habit and Heart
    Nov 7, 2024 – 00:35:26
  • Rochelle Seltzer: Harnessing Creativity to Boost Legal Success
    Nov 4, 2024 – 00:30:36
  • Daniel Scola: Developing Business in Law: What They Don’t Teach You in Law School
    Oct 31, 2024 – 00:34:18
  • Camille Stell & Brenda Barnes: Aligning Law Firm Growth with Attorney Retention
    Oct 28, 2024 – 00:31:47
  • Steve Mehr: Differentiation, CRM, and SOPs for a Sweet Law Firm Growth
    Oct 24, 2024 – 00:32:19
Recent Reviews
  • Tim Semelroth
    Steve’s show is a masterclass!
    Lawyers not understanding business is a well-worn cliche. Steve helps us grow beyond the limitations of our law school training by identifying and distilling the important business lessons from his guests’ professional journeys.
  • Logshogs
    Sage Advice For Lawyers
    @fretzinsteve offers a wonderful variety of topics and guests to help attorneys - new and old - to the top.
  • JoanButler
    Focuing Beyond The Problem on BE THAT LAWYER podcast
    @fretzinsteve, it is a JOY to be interviewed by you!! Your passion for what you do is so professional and heartfelt. I know anyone who works with you will be successful because that is your INTENTION to serve your audience. Thanks you for having me on your podcast!! Joan
  • MarciaWW
    BE THAT LAWYER with FRETZIN
    Thank you @fretzinsteve for inviting me to participate with you on your podcast. You are masterful at putting your guests at ease. I enjoyed sharing my thoughts on law firm leaders, leadership, management, changes in the legal profession and managing partners roundtables with you.
  • MerDancwr
    Strategizing About Effective Brands
    Working with a professional, such as Steve, was an exhilarating experience. Together we took apart brand development and identified what makes a successful brand and what makes brands fall flat. We look forward to your thoughts.
  • lauraterrellcoaching
    Great show for ambitious lawyers
    I loved being a guest on your show, Steve, and sharing my thoughts on cultivating a business mindset as a lawyer. You have such terrific guests and ensure that each episode is a great, focused conversation
  • VivaJF
    Steve knows!
    What an honor to be interviewed on this show. I work with a couple of Steve’s clients on their staffing and I hear nothing but amazing things from them in how Steve consults their firms. 10/10 recommend!
  • MicheleInChicago
    Smart, thoughtful host
    What a pleasure to be a guest here! Steve Fretzin is a smart, thoughtful host who asks practical questions and always keeps his audience in mind.
  • LJGoodman
    Good Info
    I always enjoy Steve & his guests. Great straight advice on growing & managing a law practice.
  • Bold Women Lawyers
    Love the variety
    I have learned something about running a great law business from every episode. Sharon Christie, Bold Women Lawyers
  • Corinne Heggie
    Growth mindset for lawyers
    BTL provides perspectives on the growth mindset espoused by lawyers from all corners of the profession. Must listen!
  • Jdizzle1330
    Great and helpful podcast
    Excellent podcast. I find myself sketching out notes during each episode for take aways and tips and trick I want to remember.
  • Brosen327
    Be That Lawyer
    This podcast provides informative, interesting, and practical advice. Well worth the eartime.
  • churley2
    Fantastic, practical advice for the ambitious lawyer
    A must more than ever!
  • ChelseaShea24
    Great for All Business Professionals
    Even though I don't work in the legal field, I love listening to Steve Fretzin's show. I have learned something new in every episode that I have been able to take with me into my own career. I'm excited to see what else (and who else!) Steve brings onto the show and what else I can learn from him/them!
  • Marjorie@ASustainableMind
    Great show with smart content
    I really enjoy this show and will definitely be encouraging the lawyers in my life to listen. I love Steve's style and this content is great, even as a non-legal business professional.
  • grecpod
    It is Time for Fretzin to go National!
    Steve Fretzin has been an amazing resource to Chicago-based lawyers. Now everyone in the country can start to see what those locally know - Fretzin is the best way for lawyers to build their book of business! Looking forward to more podcast episodes!
  • Chris23Morales
    A Student Ready to Learn
    I'm really looking forward to the interviews with legal marketing and technology experts! It's something I constantly debate in class and can't wait to learn more about it from a legal lens.
  • DJ Doug Sandler
    Oh yes! Waiting for this for ever
    Well done Steve….I am sure there are tons of lawyers that need this exact podcast. Excited to see a million positive reviews. Congrats on the launch.
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