Hosts are amusing, insightful, and interesting to listen to. How unfortunate that I discovered this show 6 months after they called it quits. I’ll check out their Substacks.

Did these two ever get along? Hader is a thinker, living in the real world, Daum is ideological. They should have had their finale in private. It was painful to listen to Daum ‘s TDS resentment and hurt feelngs. Hader I would follow, Daum no.

Maybe Sarah should have just gone to therapy.

An excellent podcast with 2 brilliant people and terrific thought leaders. You both kick butt! Good luck.

I was a politically homeless, deconstructing Christian when I first started listening. You both gained my trust with your sharp, clear-eyed, intelligent conversations. I have since reconstructed my faith, and have settled into a calmer, more heterodox political mindset . . . thanks mostly to you two, who helped keep me informed and sane. I will miss your show a lot. Loads and load of Blessings to you both❣️

Heartbroken to hear you are ending the podcast. Wish I could say how much this podcast has meant to me but no room here. You’ve brought a lot of joy into my life- I’m grateful to you both.

Will miss you guys

Great show, ladies but…. The reputed (and absurd) 666 requirement for marriage-worthiness is 6 figures, 6 feet, 6 pack abs (not 6 inch d@ck).

They’re getting better. Cool to see it cook 🐬

It would be helpful if the hosts figured out pronunciations, basic facts, and their general thoughts on a topic before hitting record, so the audience doesn’t have to suffer through their halting efforts to iron those things out

I just finished listening to the episode “A Case For (Bad) Education” and was very unimpressed. I stopped listening past the point where they discussed UCLA medical school and its supposed decline after making efforts to increase diversity in admissions. I’m a medical student and have personal insight into the medical school applications process. The source that they referenced for this is a ultra right-wing “freedom fighters” news page that smells of bias from the minute you visit the home page. The entire claim that the school has become less successful and is producing substandard doctors because of the increasing admissions of non-white applicants is not backed by any statistical analysis. UCLA was undergoing a big curriculum shift at the time that their scores dropped, which is more likely the cause of their downside than the pro-DEI admissions changes. At no point did the hosts discuss the possibility that this news source was giving incomplete information, that there’s more to the story, and how unfair it is to pile the shortcomings of the medical school into its non-white students. Neither did they acknowledge that there are so many barriers to getting into medical school that are amplified many times over for non-white students, especially from lower socioeconomic backgrounds.

“Is it?” “Are they?” “Am I?” These are not true returns of the conversational ball. They are boorish and annoying. Give an argument, data, even just an anecdote, something.

Give yourself a Chelsea and I’m your biggest fan. And tattoos. Also, whatever dudes are sitting around talking about how short hair is somehow undesirable on women need to get a life. I think this group of people is not the norm. Most of us do not think like that.

Good episodes are great, but I frequently quit episodes in the middle because I get frustrated by Haider talking over Daum. Sarah is really smart and interesting when speaking about topics she’s knowledgeable of, but her strong judgements make her difficult to listen to on subjects she is less familiar with. Sarah will often profess not to know much about a topic and then in the same breath take a strong and unmovable stance that is impervious to any new information or points that Megan adds. This is especially apparent in episodes where a book is discussed that Megan has read and Sarah hasn’t, or when there’s a topic that Megan has first-hand experience with (like the publishing world).

Love listening to these hosts even when I don’t fully agree.

…if they didn’t talk over each other the whole time. Truly awful listening experience

The newly elected senator (he was sworn in in the boys' hospital room) said for years that the truck driver who hit his wife's car was drunk ("He drank his lunch. ... I didn't pursue it . . . ), which was a big freaking lie. He only stopped saying it after the man's daughter pleaded with Biden to do so, the wreck having destroyed her father's life. If I'm not mistaken, Biden eventually apologized. He deserves no sympathy. He has never been a good man, a good father, a good human being, or a statesman. He is here because he wants to be.

As a woman of an age somewhere between Sarah and Meghan’s age I appreciate both their perspectives on everything from porn to dog euthanasia. I have been enjoying the free feed for months now but I recently broke my one paid podcast subscription rule so that I could catch up on all the subscriber episodes.

Heterodox orthodoxy aside, Daum is hilarious.

It’s just fascinating to me how Megan tends to have smarter, more intelligent conversations on her other show. I think Haider is mostly pretty interesting, but sometimes they both get into a bit where they’re contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.

The Briana Wu debate was quite interesting. But I found BW insulting, at times patronizing and full of a fair amount of hubris. She reminded me of that fine line between decent self esteem/confidence and needing be doing the superior dance. Great show!

What happened to the intro music? It disappeared, and I think it’s odd they haven’t addressed it. Also, the intro language that Meghan reads at the top of each episode is so cringe… 😬 Have been listening for more than a year, and generally like it. Came here as a longtime fan of Meghan’s other podcast, The Unspeakable. I like Meghan, but I find Sarah increasingly difficult to listen to. She seems to have trouble clearly articulating her points. Not sure if it’s her age or what, but Meghan is much better and more reasonable/appealing to me as a 42-year-old cis white woman. I often listen at 1.25 speed to get through their longer episodes, which is saying something because I happily listen to other long-form pods in their universe, like The Fifth Column (which full disclosure, I pay for) at regular speed.

This podcast was recommended to me at the bottom of the Yasha Mounk podcast feed from Apple’s algorithm. My opinion is based entirely from the recent episode touching on cruises, identity performance, and therapy. It’s a whirlwind of opinions that hits the aging progressive demographic squarely in the nose. If you find yourself brushing uncomfortably against modern day progressive norms espoused on TikTok, you’ll find a lot to startle and delight you here. The host’s loose-cannon approach to exploring their opinions is both those show’s main selling point and its biggest limitation. Compared with the deliberate, methodical approach of Yasha Mounk’s reasoning, this show throws spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks. The discussion about the validity of therapy was rife with internal contradictions as they puzzled their way to clear positions. I found that really hard to listen to, and personally wanted a much more refined critique of the ideas in question. So if you’re looking for something controversial that’ll jostle your center-left world, give it a go. Grab some spaghetti off the wall and see if you like it.

These two women are The voice of reason Yes, they take on topics I really need to hear. Issues I’ve struggled to make sense of because it’s so difficult to have a conversation with people who are deeply entrenched in their party’s propaganda. I have very few people in my life with whom I can have a nuanced discussion. I find it here. Thank you to these brave and informed women.

These girls, amazing. Always fighting for what’s right. The underdog. The true underdog. Somebody has to do it. They do a job that no white men would do. No one in their right mind would do, that’s for sure.

Original thinkers. Totally not woke.

Hosts are completely out of touch with reality, and spreading misinformation…Unsubscribing!

I find the the converastions these women have super entertaining. Always happy when I see a new episode. The topics are engaging and they have introduced me to interesting people. Keep them coming please!

Adore this brilliant, unpretentious, self-deprecating duo of sparkling, straight-talkers. Sarah has a wisdom and insight far beyond most people’s combined years and Meghan is so unremittingly thoughtful that it’s always a joy to listen to the pair of them gently but thoroughly eviscerate conventional non-wisdom or dumb mainstream articles that pass for journalism. And all without the arrogance and self-regard that one finds on virtually every comparable podcast.

Here’s an interesting podcast by….guess what? Two women! Not easy to find these days! I like both of them, I like the way they discuss things and their different points of view. I like that they’re friends even though they’re from different generations. Two thumbs up!👍👍

I like Megan a lot and I tend to follow the „heterodox” crowd. I am a former journalist in late 40s. The Huberman episode is an example of the hosts not doing enough homework. The reason the NYT piece is relevant, as many have pointed out, is that he has had episodes of his podcasts on emotional and relational health. To inject a partner w IVF while having sex w other women w/o condom is sociopathic. More relevant: check out pieces from ImmunoLogic and Conspirituality and Decoding the Gurus on his promotion of pseudoscience. Sarah’s saying „I do not know the guy” is just not good enough. Prepare. Do the homework. It is a few internet searches away. Also, Sarah should have been the one to disclose that this very writer wrote a negative piece on the debate she was in. So plausible she may have a bias.

Sarah is a humorless intellectual pick-me girl whose entire brand seems to be about how much better she is than all us regular women. She has the knack for ruining the juiciest topics for Meghan.

Am shocked by the virulent namecalling (“psychotic” “liar” “crazy” “manipulative”) these women engage in about other women. Not surprising to see how popular this podcast is.

Always happy when a new episode comes up on my feed!

Sometimes everything is okay

They pick interesting topics and always approach them with nuanced perspectives. I don’t understand why Sarah isn’t a greater known public intellectual. She is both wise and fearless.

Words can’t express how important these two voices are to me. Meghan’s own voice on The Unspeakable is great, but taken together with Sarah, they are a knockout-punch of wit and intelligence that leaves in the dust all others!

I love listening to such smart people. And there quick and subtle humor is always a delight!

My new parasocial best friends.

Interesting not boring conversation. Coming from an old fat white guy. Thank you

These women seem to ride a fine line. They can be so inquisitive at one moment and then step in it the next. So funny when they talk about low wage work and then talk about taking a month off in December because school is out anyway blah blah. So funny. So clueless. Will continue to listen just to see….

Mostly fun banter between the hosts on heterodox issues, and appreciate that they always try to be nuanced while some other “heterodox” podcasts tend to be one-sided. I am definitely partial to Meghan; she seems more understanding and soulful of the two, perhaps the age difference plays a role.

Like Megan, I’m a gen X person from a left-leaning background, and like both hosts I’m worried about western cultural changes in the last decade. “A special place” has a special place among my favorite podcasts. Also, my religious views are much the same as Sarah’s. Keep up the great work!

Absolutely love this podcast! I came into it familiar with both Meghan and Sarah and find them to be a fabulous and very complementary podcast duo. Their takes on current issues are interesting and well informed; whether or not I agree with a particular opinion they express, I always find value in listening. Their differences in age and life experiences bring unique perspectives and great conversation. I especially enjoy listening while I cook because it feels like I have friends in the kitchen with me! It’s the first time I’ve ever decided to pay for a monthly subscription to a podcast and so far it’s been worth it!

I first discovered these ladies by listening to the joint episode they did with Coleman Hughes, ‘Dating while Heterodox.’ At first their takes and perspectives genuinely confused me, as I didn’t think such deadpan humor and wit would be employed so elegantly. Meghan does a great job steering the conversations and Sarah has great takes, I mean, they both have great takes, but Meghan is a good driver, despite her inability to use management software. Needless to say I was hooked on them, and now listen to their show more than Coleman’s (he’s great too of course, but I am always extra excited when a Special Place episode drops!). I happily pay for the private feed and think you are both doing amazing work. I think you should really try to get Sam Harris or John McWhorter on the show. I would love that. Keep up the great work. Your last episode, the autopsy on your conversation with Rebecca Traister ended with a plea for a review, and I’ve decided to rise to the occasion. Merry Chrxstmas!

It was the Rebecca Traister episode that finally made it click for me. Before, I couldn’t quite put my finger on what exactly was so refreshing about Sarah & Megan. And it’s the way they can work together to gently (attempt) to coax sense out of nonsensical arguments. Traister’s episode reminded me why I left that part of the left, but Megan and Sarah’s response to her takes reminded me that cooler heads still prevail. You just have to know where to look / listen.

In a discourse dominated by maniacs, it's a joy to spend time with these two classy podcasters. Two of the six to ten well-adjusted people left in our coastal cities. And they're fun!

I was rightfully guilted into finally writing a review for one of my absolute favorite podcasts. Both guests are super smart, funny, and interesting, and I always look forward to their entertaining and insightful “takes” on current issues. A must-listen.

The women/girls make that clear. I listen as a lesbian and a radfem because I appreciate heterodoxy (and have a crush on Meghan). Interesting to hear Sarah divorce herself almost completely from feminism even though feminism has only benefited her as 1) a woman 2) an emigre. That’s typical of right wing women though. These women are extremely smart and pick compelling topics to discuss.

My favorite podcast. In fact, it’s part of my weekly #self-care ;)