Surviving El Chapo: The Twins Who Brought Down A Drug Lord

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Identical twins Jay and Pete Flores, who were once North America’s biggest drug traffickers and El Chapo’s right hand men, turned themselves into the U.S. government with the hopes of starting a new, safer life for their family. But after years of cooperating to get the world's most powerful drug kingpin behind bars, and finally gaining their freedom with a chance to start again, everything for the Flores family began to unravel. In Season 2 of Surviving El Chapo, hosts Curtis "50 Cent" Jackson and Charlie Webster hear Jay and Pete reveal for the first time what really happened during their turbulent 14-year prison journey and what it was like to come face-to-face in court with El Chapo. Plus, find out the shocking backstory to the prison sentence that the Flores wives are currently facing.
 
Hosted and executive produced by award-winning artist and producer Curtis "50 Cent" Jackson and critically acclaimed broadcast journalist and producer Charlie Webster. Brought to you by Lionsgate Sound as a world exclusive with iHeartPodcasts.

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  • shelnal
    My favorite podcast
    Surviving, El Chapo remains my favorite podcast. I finished it months months ago but forgot to leave a review. This podcast is captivating and so well done that I feel like I know the twins and their families.
  • Kellykay8387
    Riveting from start to finish
    It’s riveting and is so much more than just true crime, and it’s certainly not glorifying drug trafficking. It’s honest, heartbreaking, shockingly brave, nuanced, human, emotional, WILD, and surprisingly warm at times. The pacing of the episodes and the way Peter & Jay & Val & Viv tell stories is masterful. 10/10
  • Nicey187
    Well done
    I enjoyed listening to this story every night walking my dog, crazy life to live
  • 528Dee
    Great Podcast
    Enjoyed listening to both seasons. Thank you for speaking to the brothers and sharing their story. Wish them best of luck in life.
  • Patty2347
    Great production
    Great production but the twins and their wives really don’t seem that remorseful for the life they led at all. Still excellent podcast.
  • Don Amici21
    My ears and brain is stuck
    This is by far one of the best stories I’ve heard. Can’t stop listening and S2E2. It’s so well done and I’m hooked. What a crazy life man.
  • Ms. Reviewsss
    Enjoyed listening
    I think it was a good podcast. Enough details so that we can understand what was going on . The Flores brothers did what was best for their family & themselves. Best of luck to both families!
  • country_boy201487
    Snitches
    These guys are straight up snitches
  • mwoodyp
    Transcript Please!!!
    Love the show but I've found I'm missing 15-20% of the dialogue, and that's listening closely. Every transcript I've found is missing at least 25-30%. I'd really like to be able to better understand what's going on!
  • Winebudd
    Great Podcast
    Interesting, nail biting and informative on what really goes on the underground drug industry. Life , love and fast cruel money a must listen, I ordered the book . Good luck to everyone involved
  • SadiePickles
    A+
    This podcast is AMAZING! Every episode is so well done, so well laid out and so very good. I am almost through Season 2 and I’m hoping there might be a S3! I would love to produce this as a feature film, but I’m sure someone else has already purchased the rights and is currently developing it. Thank you, 50 Cent + Charlie! You two are excellent. And thank you, Jay + Pete, for opening up your life story for the world to hear. Much love + respect to you and your families!
  • Kupieoner
    BEST PODCAST
    The detail, narrated by the Flores Twins! I have heard both seasons several times ! I recommend you hear it!
  • BobbyJams
    Good but REALLY REPETITIVE
    Way too much filler about how the twins missed their family. Of course that is super important and totally understand but this is a podcast, we are listening to a story, we get it and dont need to hear how much they missed their family on repeat over and over and over and over. And its of course very obvious they miss their family cuz they are stuck in prison. And i think they way minimized how much they loved their lifestyle when they were livin large. I dont think they should have snitched.
  • Ekyby314
    Glorifying
    I’m drawn to the narco genre but this pod infantilizes the twins & thus minimizes their actions. Imagine how many lives & families destroyed? …Generational trauma & destruction b/c of the actions of these two? This pod is way too sympathetic on dealers of societal death and destruction. 14yr wasn’t enough, at least 20yr. How many ppl od’d on their heroin? Lost decades of their lives to addiction? The hidden cost to families and the future cost to society b/c children suffering 2nd hand consequences? This pod is produced in a way in which it narrates an excuse story for two really bad dudes who did big time damage to the world.
  • Steph Trevino
    Must listen!!
    Best podcast!!
  • BrandyAndCo
    Excellent
    Best podcast of the year. Excellent narrative that kept me listening for hours. Started to root for these twins and had to keep reminding myself what they choose to do for a career.
  • VanellopeVS68
    Wow
    Very interesting story. I certainly hope for the best for this family. Especially their children.
  • BBYHeart24
    This was FIRE!
    What an amazing job you guys did with this podcast! It’s one of the best I have ever listened to! Thank you for sharing your story in such a powerful way! The twins have a way to story tell in such a detail way that I was able to literally envision everything! The details they would include along with the sound effects were so important to try and be there and try to feel what they were going through! I can’t wait for the Documentary on this! This should def win an award!!!!! Sending a huge Shout out from chi-town💨stay blessed. 🙏👏👏👏
  • ariascristal
    Lord bring these families back together!
    The twins and wife’s are braver than I could ever be! I know they made horrible choices in the beginning of their life but making right choices now is what is important! I pray that your families can heal and be together! To the wife’s … man I am praying for you both 🩷 Stay strong ladies! You are loved and needed!!
  • TB12 2 AH81=7
    Good BUT!
    Who sound edited this? They sound like the mumble brothers plus they are way to long winded. Good story though
  • Rebs Meehan
    What a story!!
    This is an amazing story from all sides. I do observe that US Government was clear as mud in what was offed to PnJ and family. Honestly these prosecutors appear to be shooting fish in a barrel by going after your wives as y’all get out. I truly believe there are others out there they could spend their time going after, such easy game getting your wives. Please don’t get me wrong, wrong is wrong. I’m sure a conversation could have happened regarding charges to your wives. To come at your house so aggressive when non of that has been reciprocated on your side, I mean really, our tax dollars at work, yes I’m annoyed. I wish you all well, life will bless you in the changes you have made. Be well all
  • Mizzzzzbossi
    Yes
    So glad yall back. It’s crazy hearing other stories and they are still in the fold. I hope to get a Season 3!!! Also where can I write to their wives and hold them DOWN over these next 3 years?
  • Shopzilla4clothes
    Season 3!?!?!
    This was sooo good! Can we get a season three??
  • daniela409
    Wow
    I want these families to be together. This is a heartbreaking situation.
  • Was a listener
    Stories are different 🙄
    In the wives book it say he died at a car wash so why here is it at a hair salon, can’t believe what they say 🤬🙄
  • Amy S in LA
    An absolutely riveting rollercoaster!
    I’d heard of El Chapo of course, but I’d never heard of the twins. Listening to their story in their own words, in their own voices, is riveting. The twins are charismatic, honest, and a bit cocky, and they are also loving dads, brothers and husbands who do whatever they can to make it back home to their families. Their rollercoaster lives had me on the edge of my seat! Hearing the anguish in their voices and the voices of their wives and children’s of not just their their work and incarceration, but also their decision to turn on the most notorious drug lord in history is absolutely fascinating!
  • JuJuBooHoo
    What’s the lesson here
    Growing up in the inner city I’ve seen first hand how someone can get caught up in the drug trade or organized crime in general. I applaud them for wanting a better life for their kids. After listening to the price they had to pay to become a voluntary US informant I would imagine they regret their decision and anyone who contemplates making that choice, upon hearing this podcast, wouldn’t chose it either.
  • kinggriffey24
    We’re supposed to feel bad for drug dealers?
    I’ve listened to all of the episodes and just can’t anymore. They make these guys out to be some type of heroes, they are criminals and snitches. They are not good role models, not good parents, not good people. Man it is exhausting listening to them play victim over and over sort of ruins the story.
  • Kristeferr
    No trust
    I think the government did them so wrong after what they did to bring down El Chapo die just goes to show you you can not trust our government
  • chantiilove
    10/10
    love this gives a different perspective I also love hearing from the twins wife, how they also basically were doing time with the kids visiting I know the struggle.!
  • Love amour
    Like a movie
    Is like hearing a novela but is real life. Loveee
  • Telacomeswey
    Charli was not it for this project
    Over all it’s a interesting story to hear so people will listen. But this could have been way better if Charli would of asked something else besides “how did that make you feel” second season was not it we know jail is not a nice place and that it’s hard thanks for reminding us of that. Adding the kiddos was not it either.
  • Terrell05
    Amazing
    AMAZING podcast! Great listen had my on my seat the entire show
  • Mick777767
    I am done
    Wish they wouldn’t play the victim in this story. They were cartel traffickers who screwed up probably thousands of lives. The woe is me act from them and their wives is too much. I can’t listen anymore
  • Instagrama0208
    Best podcast of the year!
    Real, raw, honest!
  • FriSep29
    The next chapter of Narcos!
    This series is riveting and absolutely incredible. The first person accounts are amazing. My only complaint is that ii is hard to understand the twins due to the way they speak. I wish there was close captioning! Otherwise great.
  • Explicit626
    Why isn’t this an actual DocuSeries or TVShow?
    Amazing from start to finish. This absolutely deserves a DocuSeries and a TVSeries. Amazing
  • Reddtbay
    Surviving el chopo
    Pod cast is dope 50 nailed it. Great story and Background was dope as well.
  • bleased&free
    My own review
    Thank you for tuning in. I want to clarify that my intention isn't to justify my past mistakes, but rather to share my journey. As human beings, we all experience a spectrum of emotions - love, joy, pain, guilt, regret, and sorrow. These feelings are inherent to our nature, regardless of whether we're deemed 'good' or 'bad'. Even when our suffering is self-inflicted, it remains a genuine part of our experience. I'm grateful to have learned the truths behind a life many glamorize. Our decision to walk away stemmed from numerous valid reasons, including a desire to no longer be 'bad'. I hope our listeners understand that I wasn't born to be a podcaster or actor. My past life as a drug trafficker and businessman was mostly shrouded in secrecy, and it's not always easy to discuss openly. So forgive me if it’s not perfect . However, viewing it from the outside, I can appreciate different perspectives on it. I owe a heartfelt apology to my wife and children (I❤️u VLO) and I promise to dedicate my life to making positive choices and actions . My goal is to rewrite my story and create a legacy my family can be proud of. Our story has many untold chapters, and I invite you all to follow along and reserve judgment until the full story unfolds. To those still in the streets, I hope our journey – both the mistakes and successes – can serve as a lesson. The reality is, many won't reach the heights we did, and perhaps that's a blessing in disguise. Remember, it's never too late to change. In a game with no rules and no guaranteed victories, choosing a new path is always an option." May God keep you safe and give you the strength to make those hard decisions…
  • BabieLoves
    Great!
    I believe they did the best they could and the government failed all of them. The twins should have gotten a sentence decrease and the wife’s should of never been charged. They were helping their husbands with the case they were placed to testify against el chapo. Like that’s another reason why I don’t believe in the justice system in the US they are just not right.
  • MariaFernandaaaa23
    .
    Loved the first season but the second one isn’t all that I expected and the episodes keep getting shorter and shorter…
  • KimGoldmanfollower
    More than one episode at a time plz!!
    Such an engaging story! I look forward to every new episode, but I wish there was more than just one at a time! Also hoping to hear more about the wives and their story!
  • krnlmbch
    ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
    Could Season 2 be better than Season 1!?? SUPERB, everything about this podcast. What an incredible, incredible journey and the storytelling, SUPERB! Florez (?) twins rock! 50 cent too! ❤️❤️❤️
  • Roly711
    Not the truth.
    A whole bunch of lies they’re not telling the real story.
  • Lucy from SA!
    Best podcast Ever!!!
    All of the episodes were excellent, from the first to the last. gave details and enabled the listener to feel as if they were there as the brothers experienced what they did.
  • vinoblanc0
    Riveting, needs more narration
    The twins have clearly experienced an insane life and have a great story to tell. I am captivated. I think the story could use more help from the narrators in setting up certain scenes as I often get lost in the first hand experiences given by the twins and their spouses. There’s a lot of this, thats, someones, somethings, a lot of mumbling. I want to hear every detail and its hard to piece things together. I also want to hear more from both cohosts. Their reactions and opinions.
  • Gina sky
    Good podcast
    Just started seeing it and I love that 50 cents is really into doing show on the real world.. good job to you both.. there nothing better then the truth.. I hope y’all make a series about this..
  • Stephyf310
    Awesome
    Love the details and their ability to share the background of what we saw happening with el chapo on the news. I gave it four stars instead of five simply because sometimes I have to rewind to try to understand what the brothers where saying. They could be a little clearer.
  • Margfeller
    Interesting
    The most interesting podcast I’ve ever listened to. Amazing work!! What a story. Thank you!
  • LPIV 203
    Best “true” crime podcast
    The detail and viewpoints of Pete, Jay, Val and Viv makes this my new favorite podcast! Was so pumped for Season 2 and can’t wait for each new episode! Must listen to regardless of your podcast preferences!
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